Link: http://www.1611kingjamesbible.com/altered_verses.html/
One of the fundamental deceptions being promoted by modern Bible publishers is that the new Bibles are merely "updated styles of writing," or that they are simply "easier to read" than the KJV, and that nothing has been removed or changed in God's word. I fell prey to this deception for over a decade of my Christian life!!
You've heard the old saying, "the proof is in the pudding." Well, in this situation, the proof is in the changes. Take a look at just a few of the changes between the Textus Receptus translation (KJV) and the translations (NIV, NASB) based upon codices Sinaiticusand Vaticanus. It will astonish you.
Do these verse charts in some way prove that the KJV is perfect? Of course not, and they are not meant to. The KJV does have errors, some of which are corrected in modern versions such as the NIV (e.g. Acts 12:4, where the KJV erroneously has "Easter," while the NIV and modern versions, and the Textus Receptus, have "Passover"). What these charts will do is stir you to study. When you see glaring differences between Bible versions that create shrouds of doubt surrounding the veracity of "sola scriptura," you should want to know why these differences exist.
Personally, I do believe that the very nature of the differences can convince someone that the modern Bibles are based on corrupt manuscripts, as they make Christ less than equal with God (and even talk about Joseph being his "father"), they lessen the atonement, and they remove the need for repentance and walking in the Spirit. But that is not the primary goal here. The goal is to prove to you that all Bibles do not say the same thing.
Why is this important? It is simple: if two books say different things, or if two books say inherently contradictory things, or if of two books one says more than the other, they cannot both be God's Word.
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Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Bible verses that have been changed in other translations.
Monday, September 19, 2011
a little proof the pre-trib rapture is new and not believed in even 2 decades ago
"Oh, when the saints go marching in"
Gospel song written by unknown writer circa 1800's
Here's a little proof the pre-tribulation rapture is new and was not believed in even 2 decades ago.
These are the actual original lyrics and you will notice that the coming of the Lord and our gathering to him is in the same instance all happening after the sun turns black and the moon red. A lot of new versions have been changed to say "when the sun begins to shine" which doesn't even make any sense, but spirits of error like it that way.
Jesus said, (John 6:53-55) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
So when is the last day?
Gospel song written by unknown writer circa 1800's
Here's a little proof the pre-tribulation rapture is new and was not believed in even 2 decades ago.
These are the actual original lyrics and you will notice that the coming of the Lord and our gathering to him is in the same instance all happening after the sun turns black and the moon red. A lot of new versions have been changed to say "when the sun begins to shine" which doesn't even make any sense, but spirits of error like it that way.
- We are trav'ling in the footsteps
- Of those who've gone before,
- And we'll all be reunited,
- On a new and sunlit shore,
- Oh, when the saints go marching in
- Oh, when the saints go marching in
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the saints go marching in
- And when the sun refuse to shine
- And when the sun refuse to shine
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the sun refuse to shine
- And when the moon turns red with blood
- And when the moon turns red with blood
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the moon turns red with blood
- Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
- Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the trumpet sounds its call
- Some say this world of trouble,
- Is the only one we need,
- But I'm waiting for that morning,
- When the new world is revealed.
- Oh When the new world is revealed
- Oh When the new world is revealed
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the new world is revealed
- Oh, when the saints go marching in
- Oh, when the saints go marching in
- Lord, how I want to be in that number
- When the saints go marching in
Jesus said, (John 6:53-55) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
So when is the last day?
Friday, July 8, 2011
False Doctrine - The pre-tribulation rapture
Rapture and Resurrection of the Saints happen together.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17:
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
17 then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
At the last trump...
1 Corinthians 15:51-52:
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Only one resurrection of the righteous dead.
Resurrection at Christ's 2nd coming then the end, when all enemies under His feet.
1 Corinthians 15:21-26:
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ's, at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all his enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.
Christ to sit at God's right hand until all enemies are put under His feet.
Acts 2:34-35:
34 For David ascended not into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet.
Christ's coming not until the times of restoration of all things.
Acts 3:19-21:
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ's, at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all his enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.
Christ to sit at God's right hand until all enemies are put under His feet.
Acts 2:34-35:
34 For David ascended not into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet.
Christ's coming not until the times of restoration of all things.
Acts 3:19-21:
19 Repent ye therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that so there may come seasons of refreshing from the presence of the Lord;
20 and that he may send the Christ who hath been appointed for you, even Jesus:
21 whom the heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, whereof God spake by the mouth of His holy prophets that have been from of old.
The first resurrection... of even those that worshipped not the beast...
Revelation 20:4-5:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.
Christ is coming for His clean Bride...
Revelation 7:9-17:
9 After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels were standing round about the throne, and about the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, These that are arrayed in white robes, who are they, and whence came they?
14 And I say unto him, My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they that come of the great tribulation, and they washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Christ will not raise them up until the last day...
John 6:39-40:
39 And this is the will of him that sent me, that of all that which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:44:
44 No man can come to me, except the Father that sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day.
At the last day...
Jesus said, (John 6:53-55) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
Until the heavens pass away...
Job 14:12:
12 So man lieth down and riseth not: Till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, Nor be roused out of their sleep.
2 Peter 3:10:
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The coming of the Son of man like in the days of Noah...
Matthew 24:35-37:
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Matthew 24:40-41:
40 Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:
41 two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.
Noah knew 7 days before the flood but he didn't know 8 days before...
Genesis 7:4:
4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living thing that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the ground.
The Day of the Lord... Wrath for the wicked... Redeeming for the righteous...
Isaiah 34:2-4
2 For Jehovah hath indignation against all the nations, and wrath against all their host: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll; and all their host shall fade away, as the leaf fadeth from off the vine, and as a fading leaf from the fig-tree.
Isaiah 34:8:
8 For Jehovah hath a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.
Isaiah 63:4:
20 and that he may send the Christ who hath been appointed for you, even Jesus:
21 whom the heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, whereof God spake by the mouth of His holy prophets that have been from of old.
The first resurrection... of even those that worshipped not the beast...
Revelation 20:4-5:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.
Christ is coming for His clean Bride...
Revelation 7:9-17:
9 After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels were standing round about the throne, and about the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, These that are arrayed in white robes, who are they, and whence came they?
14 And I say unto him, My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they that come of the great tribulation, and they washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Christ will not raise them up until the last day...
John 6:39-40:
39 And this is the will of him that sent me, that of all that which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:44:
44 No man can come to me, except the Father that sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day.
At the last day...
Jesus said, (John 6:53-55) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
Until the heavens pass away...
Job 14:12:
12 So man lieth down and riseth not: Till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, Nor be roused out of their sleep.
2 Peter 3:10:
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The coming of the Son of man like in the days of Noah...
Matthew 24:35-37:
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
37 And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Matthew 24:40-41:
40 Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:
41 two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.
Noah knew 7 days before the flood but he didn't know 8 days before...
Genesis 7:4:
4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living thing that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the ground.
The Day of the Lord... Wrath for the wicked... Redeeming for the righteous...
Isaiah 34:2-4
2 For Jehovah hath indignation against all the nations, and wrath against all their host: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll; and all their host shall fade away, as the leaf fadeth from off the vine, and as a fading leaf from the fig-tree.
Isaiah 34:8:
8 For Jehovah hath a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.
Isaiah 63:4:
4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
Romans 8:13:
Romans 8:13:
13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Motivation to holiness through tribulations and trials...
Isaiah 26:16:
Motivation to holiness through tribulations and trials...
Isaiah 26:16:
16 Jehovah, in trouble have they visited thee; they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.
Isaiah 26:9-10:
Isaiah 26:9-10:
9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee earnestly: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.
10 Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness; in the land of uprightness will he deal wrongfully, and will not behold the majesty of Jehovah.
Compare to woman with child in Revelation... The church (body) of Christ
Isaiah 26:18-19:
18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.
19 Thy dead shall live; my dead bodies shall arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in the dust; for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast forth the dead.
Stand in the holy place... Our spiritual arc of God. Our salvation is in Christ Jesus.
Isaiah 26:20-21:
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, Jehovah cometh forth out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Trial of the saints...
Matthew 24:21:
10 Let favor be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness; in the land of uprightness will he deal wrongfully, and will not behold the majesty of Jehovah.
Compare to woman with child in Revelation... The church (body) of Christ
Isaiah 26:18-19:
18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.
19 Thy dead shall live; my dead bodies shall arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in the dust; for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast forth the dead.
Stand in the holy place... Our spiritual arc of God. Our salvation is in Christ Jesus.
Isaiah 26:20-21:
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, Jehovah cometh forth out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Trial of the saints...
Matthew 24:21:
21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.
Wrath for the sinners...
Isaiah 13:9:
9 Behold, the day of Jehovah cometh, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger; to make the land a desolation, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
After the tribulation of the ends of days... The 2nd coming...
Matthew 24:29-31:
29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Luke 17:20-21:
20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
Tribulation... Sun and moon darkened, heavens pass away.... Coming of the Lord
Acts 2:20:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.
Isaiah 13:10-11:
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light; the sun shall be darkened in its going forth, and the moon shall not cause its light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
Babylon the great eagle, head of gold, rode the back of the beast... America
Jeremiah 25:34-35:
34 Wail, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow in ashes, ye principal of the flock; for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are fully come, and ye shall fall like a goodly vessel.
35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.
10 out of 12 tribes worshipped the image of the beast in the old testament. The falling away...
1 Kings 11:31-33:
31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces; for thus saith Jehovah, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee;
32 (but he shall have one tribe, for my servant David's sake and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel);
33 because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, Chemosh the god of Moab, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon; and they have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and mine ordinances, as did David his father.
2 Thessalonians 2:2-4:
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Wrath for the sinners...
Isaiah 13:9:
9 Behold, the day of Jehovah cometh, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger; to make the land a desolation, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
After the tribulation of the ends of days... The 2nd coming...
Matthew 24:29-31:
29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Luke 17:20-21:
20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
Tribulation... Sun and moon darkened, heavens pass away.... Coming of the Lord
Acts 2:20:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.
Isaiah 13:10-11:
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light; the sun shall be darkened in its going forth, and the moon shall not cause its light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
Babylon the great eagle, head of gold, rode the back of the beast... America
Jeremiah 25:34-35:
34 Wail, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow in ashes, ye principal of the flock; for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are fully come, and ye shall fall like a goodly vessel.
35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.
10 out of 12 tribes worshipped the image of the beast in the old testament. The falling away...
1 Kings 11:31-33:
31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces; for thus saith Jehovah, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee;
32 (but he shall have one tribe, for my servant David's sake and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel);
33 because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, Chemosh the god of Moab, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon; and they have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and mine ordinances, as did David his father.
2 Thessalonians 2:2-4:
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Falling Away Doctrine #1 - The Rapture
Comment on pre-tribulation rapture
Spiritually it is the Holy Spirit is most likely taken out of the way, [hindering the coming of the son of perdition]
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. ["he" is what is used and not "she" as relating to the church.]
also we shall surely go thru some tribulation... what we will not go thru is the wrath of God.
Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee... [pre-tribulation is not bible proved]
There are too many to list of scripture revealing a post or mid tribulation and only 1 or 2 vs leading to assume a pretribulation Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. [How can the elect be mentioned as the reason the days are shortened if they are not there? ]
Romans 8:35 (Whole Chapter)
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Revelation 7:14 (Whole Chapter)
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Spiritually it is the Holy Spirit is most likely taken out of the way, [hindering the coming of the son of perdition]
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. ["he" is what is used and not "she" as relating to the church.]
also we shall surely go thru some tribulation... what we will not go thru is the wrath of God.
Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee... [pre-tribulation is not bible proved]
There are too many to list of scripture revealing a post or mid tribulation and only 1 or 2 vs leading to assume a pretribulation Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. [How can the elect be mentioned as the reason the days are shortened if they are not there? ]
Romans 8:35 (Whole Chapter)
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Revelation 7:14 (Whole Chapter)
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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